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Tilak Doshi's avatar

Mark Steyn's experience is a particularly painful one, though he was finally vindicated as I have noted in a couple of my articles. Much credit is due to the judge who refused to allow Michael Mann to manipulate the court process.

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Tilak Doshi's avatar

How do we do anything about anything we are concerned about and know it is wrong? Each of us in our own orbits in small ways at least -- at council meetings, among friends, voting, etc.

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BuckEejitSociety's avatar

We are now living in an era of Lysenkoism driven by profit and virtue signalling. Science has been fundamentally compromised by the requirement to conform to current narratives and there might not be any way back for a few generations.

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

'...for a few generations...' - and the rest!

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Tilak Doshi's avatar

I haven't actually. Is it available on youtube or something?

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

The movie can be see on Disney+ and Hulu, if you have a subscription. Otherwise you need to spend a few bucks to rent it on Apple TV.

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Tilak Doshi's avatar

Thank you

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Tilak Doshi's avatar

While no source can be completely free of bias, the BBC of old was a reasonable source of reliable commentary on current events before it became completely unhinged with its manufactured narratives on issues such as Covid-19, climate change, Brexit, Trump and the culture wars.

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

George Orwell is said to have left the BBC because of the propaganda. But true enough, for many old 'uns the BBC used to be very well respected. It has deteriorated massively, like most else.

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Tom Welsh's avatar

Of course, during WW2 most British people believed the BBC was telling them the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. But it always seems that way when it's your side's propaganda that you keep hearing.

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Ian Yates's avatar

And don’t forget the BBC’s role in the promotion of the supposed link between the MMR vaccine and autism. Ironic, given the way it reported on vaccine scepticism during Covid.

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

Maybe the one caused the other?

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Tilak Doshi's avatar

Glad you enjoyed it. I like to think I have both, a sense of humour and a reasonably good memory.

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Steve Campbell's avatar

Didn’t know alot about Fenton but have been a huge supporter of Mark Steyn for years. His 13 year “ trial “ vs Michael Mann has cost him jobs, money and almost his life. Those who testified against Mann and the Hockey stick nonsense, Edith Curry, Roger Pleike and others have been ridiculed and vilified by the Climate Crisis mob and their media lackeys. The more these scientists are attacked the more I know how afraid the Crisis mongers are of the truth and how wedded the lies have been used to dominate the narrative.

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Tom Welsh's avatar

Another important recent legal case was the libel proceeding by Dr Zoe Harcombe and Dr Malcolm Kendrick against "the Mail on Sunday", in which the court found decisively for the two doctors. https://www.carter-ruck.com/news/the-mail-on-sunday-apologises-and-pays-substantial-damages-to-doctor-and-academic-in-statins-case/

One hopes that this will lead the media in general to be more wary of defaming honest, highly expert doctors and scientists who "paddle upstream" by contradicting the official party line.

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

Don't worry - their Globalist paymasters will recompense them - they control the 'Money Trees'.

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M. Dowrick's avatar

God bless Norman Fenton.

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

Indeed - I didn't know he had been forced into retirement.

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Mara's avatar

You should research the history of the BBC, it has never been impartial. They make that claim about themselves without evidence and contrary to the historical record.

It was created as part of Steads effort to use journalism as a form of government following the formation of a huge media union by his friend Rhodes among others.

Moreover, impartiality doesn't exist. It is a myth, everyone is partial to their own biases.

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Dave Woolcock's avatar

Just reading Hidden History so I know who you mean!

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Michael Leahy's avatar

What Norman Fenton is to numbers, Peter Duesberg is to viruses. I was discussing HIV/AIDS with Dr. Duesberg in 1995. I watched in horror as he was cancelled over the next two decades.

You mess with the narrative, you get the shaft. The pattern has been around for a while.

I can't express strongly enough my appreciation for Dr. Fenton's math based approach to all things COVID for all of those years.

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Rider's avatar

Hijacking threads should be punished with jail time, but I'll do so anyway...briefly. I read Duesberg's 720 page book 3 times years ago, because it was a fascinating demolition of HIV causes AIDS hokum. Not until late 2020 did I learn that there is no HIV (virus) nor any others. Viruses were never observed and studied, but were an imaginary construct designed to rescue failed bacteriology. No virus, HIV included (see the video snippet of Luc Montagnier admitting it has never been isolated) has ever been found in the fluids-tissues of sick people. In other words, no virus has ever been found, gathered, separated from everything else and the pure specimen used to demonstrate "virus behavior" consistent with the invented definition of an imaginary construct. In short, no virus has ever been proven to exist.

Dr. Duesberg would not "like" my comment and I do hope someone will come visit me in jail. Thanks.

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Biggles's avatar

Kary Banks Mullis (the inventor and developer of the PCR Technique [not a diagnostic test] for producing larger quantities of stuff from minute quantities of stuff) continually sought a source for the contention that HIV caused AIDS. "Where is the paper that first drew that connection? I need to quote that source and so need to see it". He even asked Luc Montagnier. NOBODY could provide that source reference.

Kary Banks Mullis died on August 7th 2019, in California from pneumonia (allegedly).

Pneumonia..... at the height of the Californian Summer...... a few months before the world got to hear of this extremely contagious new Corona virus, that had a survival rate of better than 99.25% for all cohorts apart from the very elderly or those with multiple severe comorbidities.... And which people were coaxed / bribed /cajoled / threatened with fines and imprisonment, and did suffer loss of civil liberty, and their employment, if they did not consent to being jibjabbed.

The PCR Technique was key to the testing programme required to foist that coNvid scam on the world, and it was thus necessary that Kary Banks Mullis no longer be aound to rail against the misuse of his technique (for which he was awarded the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in 1993). And he WOULD have been very vocal about that gross misuse

I remain firmly convinced that Kary Mullis was murdered as part of the preparations for "Covid".

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

Mr. Mullis was 74 when he died. About one year over the average lifespan for a US male. You can get pneumonia in summer, especially if you live somewhere with not-so-good air quality (like Long Beach, CA.)

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Tom Welsh's avatar

Dr Mullis was not an average man. He was supremely intelligent, creative, absolutely honest, and full of life.

I have my doubts.

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

Average life span says nothing about whether the person in question was average or not. Was an autopsy done leading to doubt about the cause of death? (I am sorry you lost - and others - this good man.)

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Michael Leahy's avatar

I also have a half dozen bookmarks sticking out of my copy of that book. I've purchased copies as gifts.

I really thought that the arrival of "Inventing the AIDS Virus" would end the stranglehold of the HIV AIDS theory. I was so wrong.

When I shook hands with RFK Jr as he campaigned for president, I recommended that Duesberg head up the NIH. Duesberg had already done plenty of work with the NIH and he seemed to me to be an excellent fit for straightening things out in that agency. I will never forget the look on Kennedy's face.

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

How is it hijacking the thread when you stay on topic and add useful information? What am I not understanding here?

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Rider's avatar

The article to which these comments are attached is about public health and global warming institutional tyranny, not about whether or not viruses exist in nature.

But maybe my brain has been hijacked by conspiracy mongers, so I now have difficulty discerning on versus off topic.

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

Relevance is in the eye of the beholder. I appreciate a posting that mentions additional information that I can look into, like the book title you give.

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Rider's avatar

More useful books, in case you want to read about this, include The Truth About Contagion by Cowan and Morrell, The Final Pandemic by Mark and Sam Bailey, Can You Catch a Cold? by Daniel Roytas. Any of these will make your eyes pop out and roll across the floor. Please don't sue me--you've been forewarned.

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antoinette.uiterdijk's avatar

I am wearing reading glasses for better vision as well as safety, but thank you for the warning (and the titles).

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Alan's avatar

Prof Fenton’s treatment is disgraceful. I have learned more about statistics from him than anybody and have a high regard for the clarity of his explanations.

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Tim Simmons's avatar

The world and uk in particular is in a bad place. Our so called Elites like Milliband, Starmer, Rayner, Johnson etc etc talk about misinformation, and the far right or loony left, yet these disgusting liars are spreading misinformation at a higher rate and with a holy virtue that is becoming untenable. Why can’t there be good honest debate, instead of a constant narrative on any contentious subject?

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

Things are going to get much worse. After WW III is over (and it has already started) the Globalists are going to announce that their true 'God' is Lucifer, and no one will be allowed to live who doesn't accept 'It'. Just osing your job and being 'cancelled' would be a blessing in those days. Albert Pike, a top Mason inthe 1800's, foretold three world wars, who they would involve and why they would be fought, and it wasn't because he was a great 'Seer' or had a mystical crystal ball, but because in his position as a top Mason he knew the plans were already laid.

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Tom Welsh's avatar

In an ideal world, mavericks like Professor Fenton (and Galileo) would be highly esteemed and rewarded. When the crowd are all going one way, like lemmings, it is vital to have a few people who stubbornly maintain, "Eppur, si muove".

There are two kinds of people: those who are controlled by political considerations and desire for personal gain; and those for whom truth is sacred. Not for any wishy-washy "religious" reasons, but because truth is necessary for survival.

Our societies today resemble high-powered cars being driven by people who have chosen, of their own free will, to wear blindfolds. It will not end well.

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Paul  Barbara's avatar

Not unlike those who swan off in aircraft for sunnier climes for their 'Hols', not knowing or caring if their pilots and flight crew are walking time-bombs having been jabbed up to the eyeballs.

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Tilak Doshi's avatar

Thank you for your comment. Yes, I am aware that Galileo is a mixed bag, but for the purposes of this essay, the high note of a scientist being censored by the Catholic church seemed apt despite the nuances of the actual events.

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Biggles's avatar

Excellent piece.

What's the phrase? "Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged".

[Fredrick Nietzsche].

Which tells us that both coNvid and the Climate Change Hysteria are both gold-plated lies.

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Donal O'Callaghan's avatar

Thank you Tilak for speaking out in this Orwellian time. Donal O'Callaghan

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James Charles's avatar

Climate has changed before?

“ . . . it is these ocean state changes that are

1:02:28 correlated with the great disasters of the past impact can cause extinction but

1:02:35 it did so in our past only wants[once] that we can tell whereas this has happened over

1:02:40 and over and over again we have fifteen evidences times of mass extinction in the past 500 million years

1:02:48 so the implications for the implications the implications of the carbon dioxide is really dangerous if you heat your

1:02:55 planet sufficiently to cause your Arctic to melt if you cause the temperature

1:03:01 gradient between your tropics and your Arctic to be reduced you risk going back

1:03:07 to a state that produces these hydrogen sulfide pulses . . . “?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ako03Bjxv70

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Pete Wright's avatar

Thanks for this excellent piece.

I particularly enjoyed this line ... "The BBC, once a bastion of impartiality" ... you certainly have a sense of humour (and/or an excellent memory).

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